Trump Dreams of Economic Disaster

Why, exactly, do so many Americans admire this guy?

By Paul Krugman

Jan. 11, 2024


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Did Donald Trump just say that he’s hoping for an economic crash? Not exactly. But what he did say was arguably even worse, especially once you put it in context.

And Trump’s evident panic over recent good economic news deepens what is, for me, the biggest conundrum of American politics: Why have so many people joined — and stayed in — a personality cult built around a man who poses an existential threat to our nation’s democracy and is also personally a complete blowhard?

So what did Trump actually say on Monday? Strictly speaking, he didn’t call for a crash, he predicted one, positing that the economy is running on “fumes” — and that he hopes the inevitable crash will happen this year, “because I don’t want to be Herbert Hoover.”

If you think about it, this isn’t at all what a man who believes himself to be a brilliant economic manager and supposedly cares about the nation’s welfare should say. What he should have said instead is something like this: My opponent’s policies have set us on the path to disaster, but I hope the disaster doesn’t come until I’m in office — because I don’t want the American people to suffer unnecessarily, and, because I’m a very stable genius, I alone can fix it.

But no, Trump says he wants the disaster to happen on someone else’s watch, specifically and openly so that he won’t have to bear the responsibility.

Speaking of which, when did Trump start predicting economic disaster under President Biden? The answer is before the 2020 election. In October 2020, for example, he asserted that a Biden win would “unleash an economic disaster of epic proportions.”

Now, everyone who makes economic predictions gets some of them wrong. I personally predicted a recession if Trump won in 2016, partly because markets seemed to believe that a Trump victory would be bad for the economy. But I retracted that call just three days after the election, acknowledging that I had briefly succumbed to motivated reasoning.

Trump, by contrast, has been predicting disaster under Biden for more than three years, without ever admitting that his predictions haven’t come true. What we’ve gotten from Trump instead is a series of desperate false claims about the state of the economy. No, the price of bacon isn’t “up five times” under Biden.

Some of these false claims fall into the category of: Who are you going to believe, me or your own eyes? Last month, for example, Trump declared that gas costs “$5, $6, $7 and even $8 a gallon,” when there are big signs all around the country advertising gas prices a bit over $3.

Maybe he doesn’t get out much.

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I find it puzzling that Trump doesn’t pay more of
a political price for his boasting, whining
and transparently self-serving lies.

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What Trump surely does do, though, is watch a lot of TV, which means that he’s aware that the stock market has gone up a lot lately. This clearly troubles him. Indeed, he’s apparently so rattled by stock gains under Biden that in a recent speech he managed both to dismiss those gains as irrelevant — just “making rich people richer” — and to claim credit for them: “The stock market is good because a lot of people think we’re going to win the election.”

If this sounds ridiculous, that’s because it is. Here we have a guy who spent much of his time in office bragging about a rising stock market suddenly declaring that stock gains are bad when someone else is in power, while insisting that he deserves credit for good things (or are they bad things?) that happen when he isn’t even running the country.

Does this matter? Trump may want an economic crash, but he doesn’t have any tools I’m aware of that could produce one. But as I wrote the other day, there’s a risk that pressure from Trump and his allies will lead the Federal Reserve to keep interest rates too high for too long.

Practical concerns aside, however, Trump’s flailing on the economy and the stock market deepens the mystery of his political appeal.

I hate saying this, but I do understand why millions of people are drawn to Trump’s dictatorial ambitions, his encouragement of violence, his declarations that immigrants are “poisoning the blood of our country.” The sad truth is that there have always been many Americans who fundamentally don’t believe in America’s democratic ideals.

But I find it puzzling that Trump doesn’t pay more of a political price for his boasting, whining and transparently self-serving lies.

MAGA types tend to idealize the 1950s, largely based on a delusional image of what life was really like at the time. It was especially terrible if you weren’t a white male, but things could be pretty bad even if you were. One thing the ’50s did have, however, was an image of how men were supposed to behave, one that emphasized stoicism, honesty and a willingness to take responsibility for one’s actions — what my parents would have called being a mensch.

Trump is as far from being a mensch as is humanly possible. Yet his supporters either don’t see that or don’t care, which seems to me to be a bigger departure from traditional values than all the wokeness in the world.
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oldjacker67
oldjacker67 1 年 前
Looks like Donald's dream of economic disaster may have finally come to fruition. Maybe not for America but it certainly may for him. $355,000,000 fine for being such a smart business man. Talk about Karma. It mat take awhile but what goes around does come around eventually.
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oldjacker67
oldjacker67 1 年 前
hielofrio : Trump started the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan. The Trump administration in February 2020 negotiated a withdrawal agreement with the Taliban that excluded the Afghan government, freed 5,000 imprisoned Taliban soldiers and set a date of May 1, 2021, for the final withdrawal. Did Biden fuck it up, yes. Trump tried to blackmail Ukraine into lying about Biden in exchange for defensive weapons against Russi*. The only reason the invasion didn't happen earlier was there was a chance Trump would win the presidency again. Where is the manufacturing renaissance Trump promised, the infrastructure deals, The healthcare reforms, the border wall Mexic* was going to pay for, the trade deals with Chin*. The only trade deal he made with Chin* was having 6 tons of Chines*'s goods delivered to his hotels. A real Americ* first guy. Let's not forget the 25 or so patents that he and his family received from Chin* after his election. This doesn't even begin to describe the chaos around Trump. The profits he and his family made from his presidency. He actually used the state department to try and convince the British to move the British Open, one of the oldest and most revered golf tournaments from the U.K. to his golf course in Scotland. All this leading up to the attempt to overthrow our government and cause the storming of the Capitol building in which 5 people died. The lies about the election being stolen, the lives of ordinary poll worker volunteers destroyed by his lies. Everything about Trump is chaos. If you think he gives a rats ass about you or I think again. As for protecting Europe Biden has done more for strengthening NATO where Trump wanted to dissolve NATO. Biden hasn't started any wars. Are we helping Ukrain*? Yes. Would it be better to let Russi* roll them over? As for the economy there are arguments on both sides that things were better. Depends on where you stand personally. His big tax break for the wealthy cost me a grand a year in taxes. Having said all this, am I happy the two candidates for President of the USA is Joe Biden and Donald Trump? No, I'm not. I wish there were better alternatives but at least one of these two men aren't going to burn the Constitution and turn our Republic into a dictatorship.
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hielofrio
hielofrio 1 年 前
And is Biden the solution? Trump did not start any war or make an embarrassing withdrawal for the American military and all its allies. Biden left Afghanistan for the Taliban and all the soldiers' deaths were worthless.

Which country protects Europe and our standard of living? USA. Trump asked his partners to increase defense spending and the countries of Europe lagged and criticized... until Putin attacked Ukraine.

How is the American economy? Better now than before? Where do the large American technology corporations manufacture? In China. Trump denounced it. He told them to manufacture in the US, but since they feared higher costs and less benefits, they turned against Trump. They prefer to manufacture in China, with semi-slave labor and without rights, rather than free workers with rights.

Then all those millionaires and American corporations go to Davos to say that we must decrease. That is, they are richer and the rest are poorer.

I think we need more politicians like Trump and Milei who say what goodism and socialist-communist demagoguery mean.
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oldjacker67
oldjacker67 1 年 前
laurent7891 : America's solution for what exactly?
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laurent7891
laurent7891 1 年 前
What if Trump was the solution for America?.. I dare to be provocative... Seen from my little French eye....
Today... I see (admittedly from a distance) a bedridden Biden, unable to move properly and stammering ... brief... sick... accumulating blunders...
This man wants to run again, even though when he was elected, he swore that he would only serve one term.... What for?
He has a competent vice-president....why prevent him from running?
For me, even if he does not like Europe and my France, he appears to me as the guarantor of firmness in the face of Xi, Kim and Putin....
Biden seems to me like Roosevelt in 1945: weakened by illness and having ceded everything to Stalin.
If Biden is retained, it will be a signal to Putin: he will be able to invade Poland, Romania and the Baltic countries as Hitler did with the Sudetenland, Czechoslovakia and then Poland... by the weakness of the democracies of the time, including the United States.
Nothing will stop him...
So, Americans... Think carefully about the consequences of your votes... the world is watching and waiting... Don't forget it!
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oldjacker67
oldjacker67 1 年 前
The sad truth about the piece of shit that resides in the flesh that encompasses the soul, however lacking it is. of Donald Trump is that he is nothing more than a carnival clown, a snake oil salesman, a grifter, a con, a liar, a sociopath. If he gets back into office, with what he learned from the first go around, it is going to be an epic moment for this country. He won't have to pretend to care. He has already told us he doesn't. He will surround himself with people who care as little or less than he does about America or the world. At least the first time he had people that somehow kept this country on the right path most of the time. That will not be the case if he gets a second term.  
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SeaStories1983
SeaStories1983 1 年 前
One of the realities of our economic system is that the president doesn't actually have that much sway over the vagaries of markets and corporate decision making. The growing gap in prosperity between the very wealthy and the working class and working poor has been an issue for a long time, even under Democratic administrations, including Obama's. But Trump the huckster has managed to persuade a large swath of our electorate that he has their best interests at heart, and his playing to all the vile culture war themes persuades them that this is true. He's not bright enough to really understand the notion of "supply side/trickle down" economics, but that doesn't matter. A great many of those who don't realize supporting him actually works against their best interests merely think of themselves as "temporarily inconvenienced millionaires" and that they will profit mightily when he is re-elected. But he who "loves the uneducated" doesn't give two shits about them, and he will throw them under the bus if that's what it takes to stay in power and/or stay out of prison. 
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emigre69 1 年 前
I think that Krugman may be over-thinking this one. What Trump believes or says about the stock market is not that interesting. He wants people to feel anxious and uncertain, so he can sweep to victory and claim that he will set things to rights. If he imposes tariffs, he could do just the opposite to the market and the economy. But the more important question is why some people believe what he says and that the Biden administration is flailing around not solving anything. Again some people just want to believe the worst. But it might also be that some people live on impressions and rumor, not on data, particularly that which relates to millions of people. There is not that much time to reverse this.
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