'Veto' Alito's Flawed Logic

"Justice Alito Is Holding Trump to a Different Standard"

On what planet were Trump’s actions a normal response to political defeat?


By Jamelle Bouie

April 27, 2024


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I mentioned it in passing in my Friday column, but I was struck — disturbed, really — by one specific point made by Justice Samuel Alito during Thursday’s oral arguments in Trump v. United States.

Alito began innocuously enough: “I’m sure you would agree with me that a stable democratic society requires that a candidate who loses an election, even a close one, even a hotly contested one, leave office peacefully if that candidate is the incumbent.”

“Of course,” answered Michael Dreeben, the lawyer arguing the case for the Department of Justice.

“Now,” Alito continued, “if an incumbent who loses a very close, hotly contested election knows that a real possibility after leaving office is not that the president is going to be able to go off into a peaceful retirement but that the president may be criminally prosecuted by a bitter political opponent, will that not lead us into a cycle that destabilizes the functioning of our country as a democracy?”

The implication of Alito’s question is that presidential immunity for all official acts may be a necessary concession to the possibility of a politically motivated investigation and prosecution: Presidents need to be above the law to raise the odds that they follow the law and leave office without incident.

If this sounds backward, that’s because it is.

There have been, in the nearly 236 years since Americans ratified the Constitution, 45 presidents. Of those, 10 sought but did not win re-election. In every case but one, the defeated incumbents left office without incident.

There was no fear that they would try to overturn the results or subvert the process, nor was there any fear that their successors would turn the power of the state against them.

Thomas Jefferson did not try to jail John Adams after the close-fought 1800 election; he assured the American people that “we are all republicans, we are all federalists.” Jimmy Carter did not sic the F.B.I. on Gerald Ford in the wake of his narrow victory; he thanked him for “all he has done to heal our land.”

By Alito’s lights, this should not have been possible. Why would a president leave if he could be prosecuted as a private citizen?

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The way we shield our liberties from the threat
of a tyrant is to make men obey the law,
not place them above it.

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The answer is that the other nine people who lost had a commitment to American democracy that transcended their narrow, personal or partisan interests.

Alito’s hypothetical rests on the idea that this is unusual — that we should expect a defeated president to want to hold on in spite of the Constitution. But that’s a complete inversion of the reality of American history.

The truth is that exactly one person in 236 years has tried to subvert the process of presidential succession.

Trump did not do so because he feared prosecution; he did so because he did not believe the people of the United States had the right to tell him to leave.

He was indicted not because President Biden disagreed with his policies; he was indicted because he led an effort to overturn the results of the election he lost, an effort that culminated in an attack on the United States Capitol.

Alito would have you believe that Trump’s actions were a normal response to political defeat that the government has essentially criminalized in its zeal to punish an opponent. I have no doubt that this is the reality of Fox News and the fever swamps of conservative media. It might even be the consensus view of Republican lawmakers and activists. But here on Earth, it’s hogwash. Bunkum. Claptrap. Malarkey, even.

The way we shield our liberties from the threat of a tyrant is to make men obey the law, not place them above it. We chain the power of those who hold office; we don’t unleash it for them to use at their discretion. We don’t extend every privilege and immunity we can imagine; we deny them and demand responsibility.

I have a feeling that Alito and his fellow travelers on the court would understand this simple point if the president in question were an opponent and not an ally.

As it stands, at least a few justices on the Supreme Court would rather shatter a bedrock principle of American democracy than let Trump face the consequences of his own actions.
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发布者 Olive8
10 月 前
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emigre69 10 月 前
oldjacker67 : There is an interesting assumption behind the jury system, itself really quite ancient and thus applied in a number of different contexts, which is that behind all the bluster and posturing, and despite the remarkable life story, Trump remains basically comprehensible to ordinary people, carefully selected from a jury pool. That his self-regard, his contempt for the truth, his need for power and control and his skill in using others, that all these things are fairly easy for most people to grasp and evaluate, for example by comparing them with badly brought up young c~hildren we may have known. 
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Nickyhere
Nickyhere 10 月 前
Steal a loaf of bread, get caught on cctv. and see what happens to you.
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SeaStories1983
SeaStories1983 10 月 前
Olive8 : You're right about Alito as a hack. . . but I did actually mean cats. Blame it on my re-reading Martin Russ' Korean War memoir "The Last Parallel" for the um*pt*ee*nth time. As a bebop jazz aficionado in the Marines, he threw that term around a lot, even sometimes referring to his opposite numbers in the Chinese Army that way. . . But suitably chastened, dear Olla, I will try to be more careful about my casual cultural references.
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oldjacker67
oldjacker67 10 月 前
Olive8 : It's so obvious. Why didn't we see this earlier?
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oldjacker67
oldjacker67 10 月 前
I'm of the mind that everyone should be held accountable for their actions no matter who they are and that Trump should be tried and judged by a jury of his peers. Wait, Donald doesn't have any peers. He's on a level far above the rest of us. Just ask him. 
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oldjacker67
oldjacker67 10 月 前
As much as I dislike Judge Alito and as skewed as this thought may be he does have a point that a bitter political opponent might start an investigation or proceeding to punish their vanquished opponent . Look no further than the impeachment proceedings against Biden. The Republicans are trying to impeach him over policy decisions and a fact less claim of involvement in his son's shady business affairs. Compare that to the twice impeached former president who was impeached for blackmailing a foreign government in hopes of subverting our election and then again for trying to overthrow our government and inciting an insurrection on January 6th. Quite a difference in the severity of the charges. I don't agree with Alito's opinion at all 
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emigre69 10 月 前
Alito shows every sign, in some of his pronouncements on abortion for example, of not living in the same world as the rest of us and being utterly complacent about it. Or he may know exactly what he is doing.
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Olive8
Olive8 出版商 10 月 前
"Donald J. Trump v. The United States of America."  FINALLY, the crux of the problem!
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Olive8
Olive8 出版商 10 月 前
SeaStories1983 : Cats...??? What, does he moonlight playing sax in a little jazz quartet in obscure area bars when he's not busy fucking the country up...??? You must have meant to say *hacks,* as in partisan hacks, as in rigid, ideologically driven partisan hacks like Veto Alito. Now we're in the ballpark.
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SeaStories1983
SeaStories1983 10 月 前
This is of course not encouraging of my hopeful viewpoint on his other column. Maybe I'll try to hang on to that slim hope, but cats like Alito sure make that difficult. . . 
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